Full Monty…well almost!!!

There is an age old law stipulating that is an offence to buy alcohol whilst in uniform. I think it harks back to the days of the Bow Street Runners or early Robert Peel Police? (Any Police officers out there please correct me if I’m wrong)

But I don’t know where or when it crossed over to the other emergency services or anyone else in uniform. We seem to be living in a bizarre country where it is the norm for people to get killed or maimed by criminals on a daily basis and virtually get off  with a paltry sentence.

But law abiding, and community contributing, citizens are being harassed by petty officialdom and archaic laws. TESCO’s (and some other leading companies) are leading the way in pissing people off with their interpretation of law and policy. Asking senior citizens for proof of age or refusing to sell someone a spoon because one had been implicated in a murder are others that spring to mind!

Now an off duty Paramedic had to resort to drastic measures when refused a bottle of wine in a TESCO’s supermarket. He was interviewed by Police and may face Ambulance Service disciplinary proceedings on top! What are we doing in this once great country?

This is the report of the incident.   

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Paramedic saving a life without first checking what the patient is wearing!

The list of stupid rules seems to be growing on an hourly basis! Anyone else heard of stuff like this and what should, or can, we do to redress the balance?

22 Responses to Full Monty…well almost!!!

  1. Bendy Girl says:

    Going back in in just his underwear is genuis! Apart from that it’s just depressing, how can we have got into a state where teenagers openly brag about the judicial system being a joke whilst laws like this are over enforced. It’s just nonsensical!
    Stay safe big bro, lil sis x

  2. Tim says:

    Within the Red Cross, we are not allowed to consume alcohol in uniform and sitting in a pub in uniform would be frowned upon (as the public might think your Coca Cola had vodka in it…)

    I see the point with consumption as if you were off duty and tipsy, you might get some difficult situations where you are asked to practice your skills and the uniform means you are representing your service. Not buying alcohol (when bottles are closed) seems crazy though

    I’m quite happy to assist in first aid after a couple of drinks if there is nobody sober who can take responsibility and only until I can hand over to someone who is. And also only for anything life threatening. In those cases, I only identify myself as a member of the public with some first aid training

  3. Monkey says:

    I think Tesco should be ashamed of themselves for having such a discriminating policy against people in uniform. We all have lives outside of work and I we chose to nip into the shops on the way home while still in uniform who the hell are they to stop us?

    Ok the blokes actions may have been a tiny bit O.T.T. but fair play to him for standing up to the mini hitlers in tesco.

    I think the police have far better things to be doing than going after this guy and I really hope it does not cost him his job.

    Wonder if thats a Tesco UK policy only or if its a world wide thing

  4. Rach says:

    Just remember when you do it to put a shamrock over your modesty whilst purchasing Guinness…lol…xx

  5. Rach says:

    Ooo forgot follow up so came back..xx

  6. kingmagic says:

    Bendy Girl…staying safe lil sis. Hope you are too? Big bro x

    Tim…we are all aware of the rules on drinking in uniform. (Why anyone would want to drink in uniform is beyond me!) But in the context of buying a bottle of wine on the way home I think the rules are being enforced harshly. If I have to go into a shop on the way to, or from work I always wear a civvy jacket.

    Monkey…interesting point about it being a UK policy only? Good luck with the application.

    Rach…I have to modestly reply that I would require a medium sized rose bush rather than a shamrock. (No puns about thorns or pricks please!)Thankyou for reminding me about the Guinness…must get some for the fridge. x

  7. Deborah Parr says:

    The Tescos my husband works in serve anyone in uniform coming in at all hours of the day or night.

    Is this one for a petitition? Who knows what sort of a day the poor man had been through and why should he not do his shopping in uniform on the way home? And good on him for stripping off – that’s a ludicrous rule as well, when you see some of the utterly ghastly sights that go shopping in the summer – men with no shirts, women who really really should no better in very little at all. Let’s support the man!

  8. Zac Smith says:

    It is a mis-interpretation of a old policy which was not to serve police in uniform. Tesco doesn’t have a policy like this. The correct response is

    “No you don’t – get your manager”.

  9. piratedani says:

    when my feed reader dropped the title ‘Full Monty… well almost!!!’ you really made me wonder what you had been doing.

    Tesco has some funny ideas. I has looking after a friends daughter before going to party. She was 12. Anyway, the cashier refused to serve me because she was under age. Security got involved and we got escorted out.
    I really wanted to slap someone, made me quite cross

  10. kingmagic says:

    Deborah Parr…he should be okay at service level. But if the HPC (our registering body which is supposedly looking after us but performs witch hunts instead!) gets hold of it he could be out! Hopefully it wont come to that.

    Zac Smith…interesting. Anyone from TESCOs out there willing to find out for us?

    Dani…If it had been me I would’nt have bothered with the socks…or the thong!

    Its the element of common sense thats been taken out of discretion and the fear of losing your job that makes people follow the rules to the letter.

  11. It’s Pants

    What crime has been committed? Country is going mad.

  12. Dave the Dog says:

    Happened to me on my way home in uniform after work.

    Despite my epaulettes stating clearly that I was not Police I had to have the floor manager read my warrant card before I could get served.

    Rarely go there now.

  13. Ledeanio says:

    I was once in Tesco wearing my….wait for it….St John Ambulance Uniform and had come back from a duty on my way home.

    I got two bottles of wines, and the cashier said “You’re not on duty are you as I cant sell you this?”.

    Well that completely threw me! Typical Tesco training – not thinking outside the box…..

  14. Stonehead says:

    It was an offence under Section 178 of the Licensing Act, 1964, for a constable on duty to be in licensed premises, unless they were there as part of their duty, and for them to be supplied with any liquor or refreshment whether by gift or sale except with the permission of their senior officer. The law was repealed by the Licensing Act 2003 and as far as I know there is now no equivalent offence. The law only applied to constables on duty, and not to anyone else in uniformed services.

  15. Stonehead says:

    That citation is from my copy of Butterworths Police Law, Sixth Edition, and then comparison with the Licencing Act 2003.

  16. kingmagic says:

    Stonehead…thankyou for the definitive answer. As always I can rely on your good self. Why do you have Butterworths Police Law?

  17. Nick Hough says:

    That is a stupid policy, and contrary to what I’ve heard about. Two of my colleagues in St John Ambulance pulled up outside Tesco (on the way home after duty) in a marked Ambulance, and the driver jumped out and went and bought a couple of different alcoholic drinks. They didn’t refuse to serve him!

    I can understand though why the Police were called if he went back in wearing a only thong and socks.

  18. Decius says:

    “It was the second time in as many months that a customer at the Addlestone branch of Tesco has stripped in the store in protest at actions of the staff.”

    I would prefer to go with “You won’t take my money? Ok.” and walk out, with the wine.

    Isn’t there some law on the books somewhere that prohibits refusing service to a person based on their job? Especially if that job is government employment?

  19. Nick Hough says:

    “I would prefer to go with “You won’t take my money? Ok.” and walk out, with the wine.”

    Interesting point for debate. Would it still be shop-lifting if you’d tried to pay for it, but they refused to serve you? I suppose it would be…

  20. Andrew says:

    “Would it still be shop-lifting if you’d tried to pay for it, but they refused to serve you?”

    No, not if you simply left the money on the counter. Providing you were not aggressive or indecent, and left adequate funds, (and made sure that this was witnessed, either on camera or by the employee etc) there are no grounds for theft under criminal or common law.

    Even given that Tesco can “lawfully refuse” to sell you alcohol, any further action on their part would have to be civil, as no criminal offense had been committed. I can’t think if any grounds for civil, either.

    If security stopped you/arrested you on your way out, you could sue for false arrest etc.

    Any offense that occurs subsequent to you walking out, such as giving said alcohol to a minor or knocking it back whilst in uniform is a separate offense entirely, and no business of Tesco.

    I only hope that this will encourage people to shop elsewhere. Tesco’s absurd actions are indicative of the UK heading towards being the cultural equivalent of the the 51st State.

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